Matthew McConaughey is not someone who shies away from sharing his food opinions. His viral and controversial tuna salad recipe is proof, and so is his chicken salad hack.

So it comes as no surprise that during a recent appearance on Hot Ones, he waxed poetic about the perfect cheeseburger. Hot Ones host Sean Evans even opened the conversation by quoting McConaughey: “You once said that the man who invented the hamburger was smart, but the man who invented the cheeseburger is a genius.”

What’s Matthew McConaughey’s perfect cheeseburger?

It’s abundantly clear that the actor takes cheeseburgers very seriously. He even says that whoever invented the cheeseburger deserves a statue built in his honor.

McConaughey says that when constructing a cheeseburger, the order is important. He likes to melt his cheese into the top bun—and he has big opinions on the kind of bun people should be using. “Soft white, Wonder Bread white soft buns,” he says. So don’t ever try to serve him a burger on a pretzel or brioche bun!

Size is also important, and he doesn’t like a burger that’s too big. He says to make them smaller, so he can have two if he wants to. And as far as toppings go? He’s a man of simple pleasures, and those pleasures include ketchup. He will add ketchup to the burger for some moisture, and then he also likes to dip his burger in ketchup before each bite. That way, he says, ketchup is what hits his palate first before anything else.

Oh, and one final note: Cut your burger in half. McConaughey believes it’s easier to eat a wedge shape than a circle shape. I have to say that I agree with him on almost every count—the bun being the exception. I am just really partial to a pretzel bun. But otherwise, this feels like an incredible way to enjoy a cheeseburger. And McConaughey even says that he would eat it as his last meal. I can’t think of higher praise for a cheeseburger!

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